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Very interesting, André !
Two things:
1) How it works over chord lists, like '(c4e4g4) ? The chord is counted as one item in the span, or each note counts as one item ?
2) Would be interesting to have an argument for an "span-ignore-pauses" option, while doing the span, because the way you write the pause will chanbe the span function. Sometimes it can be good and sometimes not, depending on the desired effect. For example (-q -q) counts as 2 items, while (-h) counts as one item.
Best,
Julio
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Thank you for your thougths and insights. Best Julio
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Yes, this is exactly the way I see it. I was just thinking of chord symbols as another tool, because in my book I coded all the Forte numbers as chord symbols. As a jazz oriented musician chord symbols are very organic to me. I appreciate different viewpoints and and I think that music can originate from Any material, including popular music. In Brazil we have one of the most solid popular Expressions. All the best, Julio
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Anyway, Opusmodus is amazing and can do A LOT for the composition process !
Best,
Julio
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Popular music is so important and fundamental. As jazz too... It could make Opusmodus more... popular !
Minimalistic music is related to it also.
Best,
Julio
And chord symbols can be important in the compositional process, to track harmony changes.
Actually, I use some advanced and crazy chord symbols that I invented to describe every kind of set (based on Forte list).
Fr6 It's far more intuitive than 4-25, and it relates to the music history (french sixth chord...etc).
Best,
Julio
Just my 2 cents...
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3 hours ago, Stephane Boussuge said:
You may use text attributes.
S.
Can the font and font size be changed in the text attributes function ?
Best,
Julio
Maybe a "general-text" function could be added.
A goodreason for that is to use in a more gramatical-based music, like the music made using functional harmony.
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Would be Great to have a simple function to make chord symbols over staves...
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Yes, Janusz !
I have this EXACT result when I evaluate the expression.
The problem is when I do some chord processing, like chord-closest-path,
like this:
(setf comping (gen-repeat '(2) (gen-divide 1 (flatten (omn :pitch (chord-closest-path '(b3c4e4g4) '((h (b3 maj7) (d3 7)) (h (g3 maj7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb3 maj7) (eb3 maj7)) (h (a3 m7) (d3 7)) (h (g3 maj7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb3 maj7) (gb3 7)) (h (b3 maj7) (b3 maj7)) (h (f3 m7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb3 maj7) (eb3 maj7)) (h (a3 m7) (d3 7)) (h (g3 maj7) (g3 maj7)) (h (cs3 m7) (fs3 7)) (h (b3 maj7) (b3 maj7)) (h (f3 m7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb maj7) (eb maj7)) (h (cs3 m7) (fs3 7)))))))))
and the resulting score comes without the symbols, like this:
Is there some way of building my own chord library ?
Best,
Julio
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When I did this post, I used the Giant Steps (Coltrane) progression as harmonic path, in this way:
(setf harmpath '((h (b3 maj7) (d3 7)) (h (g3 maj7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb3 maj7) (eb3 maj7)) (h (a3 m7) (d3 7)) (h (g3 maj7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb3 maj7) (gb3 7)) (h (b3 maj7) (b3 maj7)) (h (f3 m7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb3 maj7) (eb3 maj7)) (h (a3 m7) (d3 7)) (h (g3 maj7) (g3 maj7)) (h (cs3 m7) (fs3 7)) (h (b3 maj7) (b3 maj7)) (h (f3 m7) (bb3 7)) (h (eb maj7) (eb maj7)) (h (cs3 m7) (fs3 7)))
But in the resulting score, the chord symbols won't show.
I have some questions:
1) How to make the chord symbols appear ?
2) How to make my own custom chord symbols ?
3) Can I make associations of chord symbols with specific sets of notes ?
4) Can I display chord symbols over a melody with a Hidden Piano Part playing them ?
All the best !
Julio
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Great!!
Always good to see your loop functions!
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Thank you, Stephane!
You are always an inspiration!
Best Julio
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An important correction:
In order to produce the right voicings is it necessary to sort the notes before transposing, so
the Command to make the voicings over the original chord progression is like this:
VOICINGS
(setf chordprogdrop (chordize-list (pitch-transpose-n droplist (sort-desc (pitch-melodize chordtrp-rpt)))))
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Thank you, Stephane!
Best Julio
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2 hours ago, Stephane Boussuge said:
Now, finally it's done by myself.
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SB
Thanks, Stephane !!
Best !
Julio
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Just now, lviklund said:
From the Listener:
? gen-chord3, chord-intervals: ((3 3 3 3) (3 5 7 9) (2 5 7 11)) cycle: nil relative: nil ambitus: piano seed: 254965
Since the function have a seed you should get different chords unless you set the seed value.
(gen-chord3 '(c4 eb4 g4) '((3 3 3 3) (3 5 7 9) (2 5 7 11)) :seed 42)
Gives you the same chords all the time.
Thank you !! Best ! Julio
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Thank you, SB !
18 hours ago, torstenanders said:In common music notation, if you use some "sticky" playing technique and you want to "disable" it later, then you should tell so the performer, should you not?
Best,
Torsten
Sometimes we need to comunicate with machines, instead of musicians.
Best,
Julio
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Thanks a lot, Stephane. I'm going to try your function soon.
The idea here is more about transforming a set of chords, instead of generating the chords.
More about controlling the exact spacing of the voicings in a given progression.
I'm getting some trouble with gen-chord3.
When evaluating this:
(gen-chord3 '(c4 eb4 g4) '((3 3 3 3) (3 5 7 9) (2 5 7 11)))
I'm getting different results each time
First Time:
Second time:
Others:
And so on... Is there some random algorithym in this function ?
When evaluating this:
(make-chord-if-length '((q c4 e d4 e4 f4 h d4)(s a4 b4 a4 g4 h f4)(q c4 d4 h e4)))
I'm getting different results each time?
Is this correct ?
1st time eval:
2nd time eval:
3rd eval...
Best,
Julio
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How to apply different voicings over a chord progression
Sometimes you have to spread the notes of a chord progression in a very specific way, specially in the case of sectional writing as in the big bands, for example, where specific voicings are used, commonly named as drop2, drop3, etc.
All the voicings are based in the initial closed position:
- DROP2 is obtained by dropping the 2nd voice an octave below, as shown below:
- DROP3 is obtained by dropping the 3rd voice an octave below, as shown below:
There are 24 types of voicings as shown in the image below. The rule is to not exceed the octave between two adjacent voices.
VOICING TYPES
From Combinatorial Harmony Book, avaiable at:
https://www.melbay.com/Products/Default.aspx?bookid=30042BCDEB
CLOSED, DROP2, DROP3, DROP2+4, DROP2+3 and DOUBLEDROP2+
HOW TO IMPLEMENT IN OPUSMODUS
EXAMPLE
;;; SOME Seventh CHORDS TO USE (setf chords '((a4c4d4f4) (c5eb4f4gs4) (d5f4g4bb4) (cs5e4fs4a4) (e4f4a4c4) (fs4g4b4d4) (d4eb4g4bb3) (eb4e4gs4b3) (e4g4a4c4) (a4c5d5f4) (f4gs4bb4cs4) (d4f4g4bb3) (fs5g4b4d5) (b5c5e5g5) (a5bb4d5f5) (gs4a3cs4e4) (b4d4e4g4) (d5f4g4bb4) (e5g4a4c5) (eb5fs4gs4b4) (e4f4a4c4) (fs4g4b4d4) (d4eb4g4bb3) (eb4e4gs4b3)))
Setting the Voicing Types:
csd (Closed Position)
dp2 (Drop 2)
dp2 (Drop 3)
dp2-4 (Drop 2+4)
dp2-3 (Drop 2+3)
ddp2-3 (Double Drop 2 + Drop 3)
(setf csd '(0 0 0 0) dp2 '(0 -12 0 0) dp3 '(0 0 -12 0) dp2-4 '(0 -12 0 -12) dp2-3 '(0 -12 -12 0) ddp2-3 '(0 -24 -12 0))
Drop order to apply over the sequence
;;;DROP ORDER (setf droplist (flatten (list csd dp2 csd dp2-4)))
Command to make the voicings over the original chord progression
;;;ABERTURAS (chordize-list (pitch-transpose-n droplist (pitch-melodize chords)))
RESULT
Not the expected result!!!! See the next correction!!!
All the best !
Julio Herrlein
An important correction:
In order to produce the right voicings is it necessary to sort the notes before transposing, so
the Command to make the voicings over the original chord progression is like this:
VOICINGS
(setf chordprogdrop (chordize-list (pitch-transpose-n droplist (sort-desc (pitch-melodize chordtrp-rpt)))))
Now, the right result for the voicing order
csd dp2 csd dp2-4
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Hello,
Simple question:
1) How to specify in the articulation list for no displaying any articulation in the note without using "ord" ?
2) Is there some reset to "normal" articulation (without symbols) ?
Best,
Julio
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Thanks, Lasse !
Glad you liked !
I'm also learning a lot.
Best,
Julio
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Dear All,
I'm trying to find a suitable workflow to make my choices easier.
One idea was to compose over a piano reduction, for easier manipulation.
Here's a way of doing that, with comments.
The MIDI FILE output is like this. I did NO EDITIONS at all in Musescore.This is the video of the MIDI output.
The XML output is the piano reduction.
Very convenient !
Best,
Julio
;;;SEV CHORDS Basic Functions ;;;Harmonic Functions/Sets List (setf Srm7 (pcs-transpose 9 (pcs '4-26) :pitch)) (setf S7M (pcs-transpose 4 (pcs '4-20) :pitch)) (setf Trm7 (pcs-transpose 4 (pcs '4-26) :pitch)) (setf T7M (pcs-transpose -1 (pcs '4-20) :pitch)) (setf Tam7 (pcs-transpose 11 (pcs '4-26) :pitch)) (setf D7 (pcs-transpose 11 (pcs '4-27b) :pitch)) (setf hd (pcs-transpose 9 (pcs '4-27) :pitch)) ;;;Estabilishing a Basic Progressions (setf chordprog (chordize (list Srm7 S7M Trm7 T7M Tam7 S7M))) ;;;Repeating and transposing the progression (setf chordtrp-rpt (pitch-transpose-repeat '((0 3 5 4) (0 2 -2 -1) (0 5 1 -2) (7 12 10 -3)) chordprog)) ;;; Making suitable voicings to the progression (setf chordprogdrop (chordize-list (pitch-transpose-n '(0 -12 0 0) (pitch-melodize chordtrp-rpt)))) ;;;Using these dropped chords as the source (setf chordprgtrp chordprogdrop) ;;;Opcionally with more Voice-Leading, with a smooth transition between the chords ;(setf chordprgtrp (chord-closest-path (car chordprogdrop) (gen-divide 4 chordprogdrop))) ;;;Counting the number of chords to make rhythm repetitions ;(setf times (get-count (get-count chordprgtrp))) ;;;Optionally setting manually the repetitions (setf times 24) ;;;Eachnote assigned to a voice (setf voz1 (flatten (pitch-demix 1 chordprgtrp))) (setf voz2 (flatten (pitch-demix 2 chordprgtrp))) (setf voz3 (flatten (pitch-demix 3 chordprgtrp))) (setf voz4 (flatten (pitch-demix 4 chordprgtrp))) ;;;optionally processing the ambitus of the voices ;(setf vozamb1 (ambitus '(c4 c5) voz1) vozamb2 (ambitus '(f3 c5) voz2) vozamb3 (ambitus '(g3 g4) voz3) vozamb4 (ambitus '(c2 e3) voz4)) ;;; Or setting to instrument's ranges ;(setf vozamb1 (ambitus (ambitus-instrument 'flute) voz1)vozamb2 (ambitus (ambitus-instrument 'oboe) voz2) vozamb3 (ambitus (ambitus-instrument 'clarinet) voz3) vozamb4 (ambitus (ambitus-instrument 'bassoon) voz4)) ;;;or just using the resulting drops as given (setf vozamb1 voz1 vozamb2 voz2 vozamb3 voz3 vozamb4 voz4) ;;;RIT ;;;one rhythm to all (for checking the "chorale" writing) ;(setf r1 (gen-repeat times '(q)) r2 (gen-repeat times '(q)) r3 (gen-repeat times '(q)) r4 (gen-repeat times '(q))) ;;;Doing an homorhythmic section (all instruments play the same rhythms (setf homorhy (gen-repeat times '(q -q e q e h h -s s s s)) r1 homorhy r2 homorhy r3 homorhy r4 homorhy) ;;; Articulation for the homorhytm (setf arthomo '(ten stacc ord stacc ord ord leg leg ord)) ;;;OMN ASSEMBLAGE of the Lines (setf vozomn1 (make-omn :length r1 :pitch vozamb1 :articulation arthomo :velocity (rnd-order'(p)))) (setf vozomn2 (make-omn :length r2 :pitch vozamb2 :articulation arthomo :velocity (rnd-order'(p)))) (setf vozomn3 (make-omn :length r3 :pitch vozamb3 :articulation arthomo :velocity (rnd-order'(pp)))) (setf vozomn4 (make-omn :length r4 :pitch vozamb4 :articulation arthomo :velocity (rnd-order'(pp)))) ;;;--------------------------------------------------------- ;;; SCORE ;;;---------------------------------------------------------- (def-score voices (:title "Piano-Red-4-Voices" :subtitle "Estudos Polifônicos" :composer "Julio-Herrlein" :key-signature 'atonal :time-signature '(4 4) :tempo '("Meditativo" q 60) :layout (piano-solo-layout '(pno-rh1 pno-rh2) '(pno-lh pno-lh2))) (pno-rh1 :omn vozomn1 :channel 1 :sound 'gm :program 'Violin :volume 100) (pno-rh2 :omn vozomn2 :channel 2 :sound 'gm :program 'Violin :volume 70) (pno-lh :omn vozomn3 :channel 3 :sound 'gm :program 'Viola :volume 80) (pno-lh2 :omn vozomn4 :channel 4 :sound 'gm :program 'Cello :volume 80))
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57 minutes ago, opmo said:
Maybe this is what you are looking for:
(setf sec (flatten (gen-eval 10 '(rnd-unique 12 '(0 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10)))))
More precise, elegant and resourceful !
Thanks a lot, Janusz !
Best,
Julio
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6 hours ago, opmo said:
The error is a known problem when you copy and past from html pages.
Go to documents and use the original score file.
No errors here.
Thanks, Janusz !!
It worked !!
Thank you !
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WOWWWWWWW !!!!
This version is getting better every day !!!
Best !
Julio